29-12-2024, 06:14 AM
(29-12-2024, 12:11 AM)Lollobionda Wrote: This time I do not agree with Mitra.I see the reason for the current clouded situation in Nadir and Meena's relationship in the fact that they are not
expressing themselves clearly to clear up the existing misunderstandings.
They should sit down together soon and have the long overdue clarifying conversation.
They run the risk of these misunderstandings growing like a snowball - the more it rolls the bigger it become -
their problems become bigger the more time passes.
They won’t be able to do it. Like I said Nadir is hesitating because he has faith that he will be soon back to full health, and he also does not want to reveal his situation to her. His thinking is not right but when circumstances are dark and bleak..people do not think straight..its easy for us to say and ask to do this way and that way from just reading it but to be in fact in that situation is terrifying. Imagine you do not know when you will get erection and its already past 2 months. On top you are hearing things like what Mitra is suggesting and Shahin is saying..it is a matter of big concern and true ice age.
Unlike RCF, I believe that Jalal and Meena were given time and space from Nadir, even more than enough.
Whether Nadir should look at it from Meena's perspective or not, the fact is that Jalal had serious intentions to
have Meena, both physically and emotionally.
He wanted to tear her away from Nadir!
At the dance and especially in the library in his house and also at the other meetings, she was given more freedom than
- a married woman can have - and Jalal skilfully exploited this.
No they were not given time..Nadir is kiddish and doesn’t understand things with clarity.
Lol you are saying whether we look into Meena’s perspective or not if Jalal is truly in love with Meena and had serious intentions then why did Nadir push Jalal into Meena’s room? Do you think everything that should happen in that household needs Nadir’s approval? He has a say on when Meena should sleep or not? That’s complete nonsense. He cannot push people to his wife’s room when he wants it but restrict it when he doesn’t want it lol
Since he started the chain of events and made Jalal and Meena sleep already, what’s the point in restricting one last time when Meena wants it?? Isn’t it kiddish?
He made it clear to her that he wanted her all to himself. Meena would not have resisted and would have gone
to bed with him
if he had exerted a little more pressure and got his way (like Mansour in the past).
What husband/partner is so overbearing, no matter how strong their love and how much trust they have in each other?
you are always talking about sex, sex and sex. Nadir doesn’t care about it. His fear is not about whether Meena will sleep with him or not, His fear is if Meena will get emotionally involved with Jalal and we all know that’s not possible. Meena loves nadir too much to be able to cross that line.
Yes Jalal wants Meena for himself and he has been on it since day 1 but you have to understand that having traveled with Meena for so many years you need to respect her decision and let her enjoy it if she wants it. Nadir one moment wants her to sleep with Jalal and another moment he thinks it’s dangerous. If he trusts Meena, then there is no danger.
Nadir is aware of this. It has happened many times in the past and he is branded.
(I am reminded here of the episodes in the lake house when Meena, after being convinced that Nadir had fallen asleep,
went downstairs to Mansour and had sex with him. Also the next morning, when Nadir was out running, she immediately
took the opportunity and had sex with Mansour again, until she was interrupted by the phone call).
So, its just sex man..think beyond sex! Meena will never love someone else…why is sex so important for you? Nadir wants it too, he just wants Meena to involve him that’s all, if not involved he doesn’t feel happy. What she did with Mansour was her passion has been ignited and she is having a good time..why is it wrong? If Nadir thinks its wrong then he should have never grown dark fantasies on his wife and could have put stop to it on day 1.
My summary is:
The coldness and mental distance that prevails during this time is not the result of a lack of trust or jealousy,
but of Nadir's anger and lack of understanding and his disappointment that Meena allows herself to be dominated
and surrenders to these men almost willy-nilly.
This really became clear once again when Jalal entered her life. This dominance (from Nadir's point of view),
which probably pleases Meena and excites her more, frightens Nadir.
I do not think of it as dominance. I feel it is being passionate about things that Meena does..She is that person who is very much involved in everything this she does and when she likes something , she is very sensitive about it and passionate about it.
Meena is someone who always thinks and acts with her heart. Even if its temporary when she is with Jalal, she will do it with her heart. It won’t be mindless fuck and go…she will be involved in the moment and that involvement is what scares Nadir. If true then he truly should understand Meena and give her space. Nadir wants her to get involved but then again looking at her passion he is scared, it won’t work both ways and this is exactly what he did with her and Jalal and made Meena upset.
~RCF