30-11-2024, 09:51 PM
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(30-11-2024, 08:29 PM)RCF Wrote: For this precise reason I call you selfish MR Nadir. I have not read remaining episodes due to Thanksgiving but I only read until you left the house with suitcase. I felt like you are most selfish guy.My friend
Mr Nadir wants a rose but women are like roses but not a rose. She can think,feel, has strengths , weaknesses and also aspirations. In fiction if Rose can think too it won't like being controlled as a toy. Nadir wants his wife to play his game and also in his control since the mistake done by her with Mansi, but did he think one sec that his games has consequences. A person can get closer to some one with out their will when they get intimate.
Every human being the way they are designed by god like certain people and when are closer to them they connect. Like our Meena mam like certain personalities who are dominant, aggressive yet caring , attentive and masculine in nature(Not necessarily macho) and when they are thrown into games with them they slide involuntarily. Mansi and Jalal are not so different in nature and I think that's what brought her closer to Jalal in such a short time. Imagine her spending quality time with him, she could easily fall in love with him if there is no Nadir in her life. Yet she chose Nadir and explained in clear terms to Jalal how her heart is not hers anymore and it has never been hers since she grew up from 9 yr old.
I came to respect her a lot. You are indeed lucky Nadir and so is she, you both belong to each other. I will complete rest of the episode later tonight.
~RCF
It is obvious that one can only posses and own a thing (e.g. a rose) and not a person, not even another living being ...
if you love someone and think that he or she loves you too, then you posses her or his love, it means you two belong together...
Is this egoistisch? If yes, then millions of lovers in human history, who belong togerther are egoisten and selfisch!
I would like to draw your attention to a dialogue between Nadir and Jalal about Meena (from part: Pond Master 7):
(…..Jalal then turned his gaze to me and noticed that I am watching him.
I blinked briefly.
"We are men Doki, and the men love to look at beautiful women!” he
argued.
"Specially the ones as beautiful as Meena, I am used to it that other men
admire my wife and honestly that makes me proud," I said.
“Women generally, enjoy showing their interesting parts to men, not only
women but other living being and even the plants do this, naturally,
This is why the life goes on since many million years on the earth,” I
smiled and added, “I am personally, a leg man, I enjoy and admire the
legs of a beautiful woman, and my Meena has such...”. "Some women
dominate the men world with their legs, don't you think?" I laughed.
Jalal laughed and said," Damn, you're one lucky guy, Doki," he chuckled,
",to have such a beauty at home,".
"I don’t believe that I do have her, I have her love, I think," I argued,
"She doesn’t belong to somebody, yes, she is a part of me, but we are
only one in spirit, at least I hope so, otherwise we are independent to do
what we like, just as we are physically separated."
“You mean, she is free as a fairy?" he asked and smiled.
I smiled back and said, “yes, it is nice to be free and to enjoy this freedom,
aren’t you also the opinion?”
“Yes, it is very nice, also spacious from you,” He replied.
After this statement about Meena, I thought maybe I had raised his hopes
too much.
Then I tried to put it into perspective so that he wouldn’t dream and
fantasize too much, "There is one point I like to say in passing, Jalal, " I
said, "Everybody can try to approach her, Meena can press anybody to
her heart, and if this happens, I mean if she allows someone to stay in her
heart, he can experience happiness, even heaven,".
After a short pause in which I tried to observe his reaction, I added, „but if
somebody tries to push her to anything, maybe he’ll be shortly proud of
himself, but that was it, it will be his last try, believe me," then I
emphasized, “nobody should try the last train to nowhere,"……)
I look at Meena as apart of me but for sure as an independent part.
Everyone is born free and should be free to make their own decisions in life...
Meena saw me for the first time when she was nine, but only saw me, she could have seen me when she was 4 or 5years old!
She fell in love with me when she was 13 or 14, everyone is entitled to that, including her, right?
If she turns away from me today at 45 and falls in love with someone else, she is also right.
I have to accept and respect that...
She will write something about that soon, and also about other points that have been left
out here recently, she told me...