Romance An Old Debt has to be Paid..by salir
(24-11-2024, 02:36 PM)Salir Wrote: I'm glad that a few interested, intelligent readers have understood me.

We still have 3 or 4 installments until this chapter of our story (Pond Master) comes to an end...

We will stay here until then .... Although we personally would very much like to stay here, not least because of some good readers.

We have a lot more to tell but after uploading the rest of the parts of Pond... we will decide how it goes on.



We thank you for your understanding.


M+S


Short and sweet ‘without’ excesses;
*I am simply overwhelmed*

Thanks again

(A detailed comment on the last posted chapter will follow later this evening/night. 
I am in the stadium watching the football match of our home team Hannover 96).

See you then
Ciao

Lollobionda
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(24-11-2024, 08:45 PM)Lollobionda Wrote: Short and sweet ‘without’ excesses;
*I am simply overwhelmed*

Thanks again

(A detailed comment on the last posted chapter will follow later this evening/night. 
I am in the stadium watching the football match of our home team Hannover 96).

See you then
Ciao

Lollobionda

Danke mein freund für deine sehr nettem ermutigende Worte...

Ich hoffe dass deine Lieblingsteam gewinnt!

Tschüss

Salir
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People always say Women are intuitive but men can sense many things that off right away. We just choose to remain silent most of the times instead of broaching the subject. Nadir you are a fine man who is always straight forward and try to be honest in all scenarios.
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First off, huge thanks for keeping this story rolling—it's been such a fun ride so far!And also, big thanks for the great update! I loved it and can't wait to see what happens next.

Nadir’s sharp instincts never miss a beat—despite Meena's careful facade, he senses there’s something she isn’t telling him. His mind, always a few steps ahead, can’t shake the feeling that something is being concealed beneath the surface.
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Meena kissed Nadir's hand for the first time when he confronted her after the ominous night in the guest 
house with her uncle Mansi.
At the time, she kissed Nadir's hand because she had been caught lying to him and also to assuage her 
guilty conscience.
Since that conversation, Nadir has been branded, he reacts very sensitively and pays attention to every word, 
every behaviour, every expression Meena makes...

Today they are in a similar situation and Meena lies to him again, keeping quiet about the excesses of the 
last few days and not coming clean.
Nadir had never doubted Meena's sincerity in the past, as he does now, not even in the first time with Mansi, 
when she was unfaithful to him...

I think that the ‘sexy’ lingerie she received as a gift from Jalal will be a door opener for Nadir in ‘unknown’ 
territory for him...

I am already looking forward to the next part. I can not wait to see what awaits us...


In this sense
All the best

Cioa
Lollobionda


(As for the game, our home team Hannover 96 unfortunately lost the home game 1-2 and failed to climb to the top. 
We are in 4th place).
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Dear Meena,

maybe you should listen to this beautiful song by Sting a few times before you take the next step.
Because Nadir is always and everywhere... 

Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you
Every single day
And every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you
Oh, can't you see
You belong to me?
How my poor heart aches
With every step you take?
Every move you make
And every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you
Since you've gone, I've been lost without a trace
I dream at night, I can only see your face
I look around, but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold, and I long for your embrace
I keep crying, baby, baby please
Oh, can't you see
You belong to me?
How my poor heart aches
With every step you take?
Every move you make
And every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you
Every move you make
Every step you take
I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
(Every breath you take)
(Every move you make)
(Every bond you break)
(Every step you take) I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
whoo, hoo
(Every game you play)
(Every night you stay) I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
I'll be watching you
(Every single day)
(Every word you say)
(Every game you play)
(Every night you stay) I'll be watching you ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugK...hesecurity officerVEVO

Ich wünsche euch beiden eine gute und erholsame Nacht ...
Lollobionda
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(25-11-2024, 04:24 AM)Lollobionda Wrote: Dear Meena,

maybe you should listen to this beautiful song by Sting a few times before you take the next step.
Because Nadir is always and everywhere... 

Every breath you take
And every move you make........
.......I'll be watching you ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugK...hesecurity officerVEVO

Ich wünsche euch beiden eine gute und erholsame Nacht ...
Lollobionda

When it comes to music, I'm more into jazz and blues (Meena loves Mozart..., she can also play the piano, a new secret about her 
that you should know!).

But this song by Sting is an incredibly beautiful piece, one of my favorites, music, song, singer and song fit so well and are 

excellent and brilliant... and I listen to it often while I drive...

Thank you friend...


Salir
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(25-11-2024, 03:41 AM)Lollobionda Wrote: Meena kissed Nadir's hand for the first time when he confronted her after the ominous night in the guest 
house with her uncle Mansi.......................
.......I can not wait to see what awaits us...


In this sense
All the best

Cioa
Lollobionda


(As for the game, our home team Hannover 96 unfortunately lost the home game 1-2 and failed to climb to the top. 
We are in 4th place).

I am sorry for your team my friend, but I am happy and proud that you remember the night of first hand 
kisses  from back then…


I'll update the story soon, maybe today or tomorrow... This special phase of our life was not so nice 
that we stay with it for long time and remember it...
I want it to be over quickly...

Salir
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Just wonderful...
Meena’s lies have finally been exposed.
What made her think Nadir would never find out?
Lies never outrun Nadir’s sharp eyes—they're practically trained for this!
It would have been much better if she had just come clean and told him everything that happened in his absence,
This whole mess and misinterpretations could have been avoided.

What will happen next?
Will he confront her, and if he does, how will she face him? What will she say to defend herself?
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I am guessing Nadir won't confront her right away but will change his decision to go to ranch with her. He will this time go with her but might give them alone time to see what's going on between them and unfortunately for Nadir he might witness his first intimate encounter between them but their conversations could reveal its not their first.
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Pond Master 19 (1)
 
The upcoming update is for me one of the most complicated and hard parts of this narrative, to remember and to write about, personally...
There will be often repetition, as is normal in such emotionally charged dialogues and conversations in real life, people want to defend their opinions and emphasize their views, and often during discussions they repeat themselves.
I wanted to gather and organize my documents and saved dialogues as soon as possible.
I did not even give them to my wife for review and I didn't check or edit them again, personally.
 
I wanted to have this phase or part of the story behind me very quickly...
 
You will see why...
 
excuse me and forgive me for any typos or other errors whatever…
I am dividing and update this part into five or more installments, because it's too long...
And before you ask… No, this is not the end! There comes at least one additional part of Pond…
 
Thank you for your interests…
 
Salir
 
***
Nadir’s Narration:
 
When I got downstairs, I found Meena sitting at the kitchen table and drinking
 
coffee and reading a magazine.
 
"Where have you been so long, baby? ", she asked, not raising her head to
 
look directly at me.
 
I poured a cup of coffee and sat down at the table across from Meena. And for a
 
couple of minutes neither me nor Meena said a word.
 
Meena cannot even bring herself to look at me, I thought to myself somehow with
 
rage.
 
Instead, she just stared down into her coffee and her magazine.
 
But then I broke the silence by asking, "Well Meena, do you want to talk?"
 
Meena for the first time look briefly into my eyes, and then immediately away
 
again, and asked, "What about, darling? "
 
"We are not the same as we were a week ago, the day I flew," I said.
 
"Why are you saying such a thing? I am the same, maybe you are not. Last night
 
showed that you are not the same, you were so weird, your behaviour was
 
weird," Meena argued.,".
 
"No, no, no... Meena, I am the one who is the same and you have become
 
someone else. Your behaviour is strange,” and continued,
 
“Okay, I’ll ask you something, are you hiding something from me?” I asked while
 
looking directly at her face as if trying to discover something.
 
“What do you want to say? What do you mean?”, She asked in a puzzled and at
 
the same time of a bit uncertain tone.
 
Her voice was even in the background slightly trembling.
 
I mean do you have secrets you want to hide? “I looked in her eyes.
 
For a moment I had the feeling that she was sitting there looking at me, like she
 
did not understand me or that she was paralyzed. No word came back, just deep
 
broken breathing sound from her, whether she has difficulty breathing.
 
“Let me explain, Meena. Over 80% of couples have one of these two kinds of
 
relationships, either they don’t love each other but just live together, in which
 
case they are honest and don’t need to hide anything, that’s normal.
 
Then there are couples who love each other but aren’t honest with each other,
 
Because, for whatever reason, they may be embarrassed and/or don’t want to
 
lose the other person.
 
The remaining 20% concerns two other groups. Main group of these two are
 
those who don’t love each other but are so estranged that they see no reason to
 
let each other know about their activities and feelings.
 
Then there is a small percentage, very small perhaps not more than seven or
 
eight percent, who talk and tell each other everything about feelings, emotions,
 
activities and everything other and love each other infinitely. I always thought we
 
belong to this tiny percentage, Meena. Now you can talk if you want and
 
explain…
 
So now Meena just sat silent and waited for the hammer to fall because sheknew
 
what was coming next.
 
“, do you understand what I say, Meena, HAVE… YOU… BEEN… FAITHFUL to
 
me these past few days? “I answered with a firm and a little louder but calm
 
voice.
 
Meena panicked.
 
“I… please, please understand that after your departure, it all got out of control.”
 
“What got out of control?” I asked.
 
“Me and Jalal, I mean I lost control, I didn’t mean to, but it just happened, but
 
nothing important happened, Nadir, I swear…” Meena wailed.
 
“You and Jalal got out of control meaning what?” I calmly asked her.
 
Meena was shaking visibly and trying to clear the situation.
 
“Okay, okay, okay, I am not going to lie, but we had no sex. There, I said it. It just
 
happened and I am so very sorry that it happened, but things just got out of
 
control.” Meena sobbed.
 
I thought for a moment before I said, “No, Meena, things didn’t get out of control.
 
Things went just the way you intended.”
 
Meena finally looked up at me and asked, “What do you mean… as I intended?”
 
“I mean, Meena, I know more than you think. You send him your nude pictures.
 
And you saved the photo of his cock in your cell phone, this is intension, you
 
chatted with him over your cell phone about your nude ass and your tit pictures
 
and the picture of his dick, this was intentional, then you agreed to go out with
 
him and I don’t know how many times you did it and you dressed as sexy as you
 
possibly could for him and you had visited him in his house alone and God knows
 
where else, this in intention and every time you were for hours with him alone
 
and made things out of your control how you formulate them, I can image what
 
they were, this is intension…”
 
“No! No! No! Not true, not true!” Meena screamed.
 
“Meena since I left, you left this house every time, with the full intention of having
 
sex with Jalal.”
 
“No! No! No! That is not true. It’s not…”
 
I interrupted her, "Meena it is true, and you have fucked up our marriage and
 
Relationship and betrayed my love royally."
 
"No, I, I haven't fucked up our marriage royally, as you put it. Yes, I made a
 
terrible mistake, and I made a really bad decision. But nothing happened, I had
 
no sex with him, really, please believe me, now, just slow down and stop
 
accusing me..."
 
After getting my thoughts together I said to her, "Meena, I don't believe you. I
 
don't believe things got out of control not intentionally and I don't believe that
 
nothing important happened. But what I do believe is that you planned it..."
 
"No! No! No! I did not plan this, it just happened. Everything just got out of control.
 
You have got to believe me!" Meena cried.
 
Meena was shaking her head side-to-side indicating no, that what I was saying
 
was not true.
 
Meena wanted to get away from hearing I accuse her of all the things she had
 
done so she tried to steer the conversation to how much she loved me.
 
"I love you. I love you more than anything in this world and I know that you know
 
that. We've to get beyond this and move on with our life."
 
I thought for a couple of moments before I said to her, "No, I can't get beyond
 
this. What you have done to me is far too serious to just walk away from it. Don't
 
you understand what you did to me these last days? You lied to me, and you
 
deceived me and humiliated me!"
 
"I didn't do that! I didn't do it! I would never do those things to you!" Meena
 
screamed.
 
" Goddamn Meena, you left my love! You left our love and life to go fuck another
 
man. And you even deceived me into to going along with it!"
 
Now crying almost uncontrollably, Meena screamed at I, "I never left you. I would
 
never leave you. Never! I just fucked up really bad."
 
"Meena, Meena, what did you just fucked up? " I asked.
 
"I… I wanted to prepare him, I sear… I mean I wanted to seduce him for your
 
game, to make him more interested on me for later, when you are there… I…I
 
can't betray you… leave you; how can I betray or leave my life? " She argued
 
and cried.
 
I interrupted her, "Listen to me Meena, when you had your hair and nails done
 
just for him, you left me.
 
When you primped just for him, you left me.
 
When you dressed up just for him, you left me.
 
When you let him put his hands on you, you left me.
 
When you took off your dress for him, you left me.
 
When you laid down on his bed, you left me.
 
When you sent your nude pictures to him you left me.
 
And when you let him have you, you left me for good."
 
"No! No! No! I didn't do that, it happened nothing, please believe me... Everything 
 
just got out of control, those pics were for you, and I sent them to the wrong
 
address.
 
You know, I wanted to tell you from the beginning, but then I thought about it
 
because I should not worry you, you were not here…"
 
"Meena, when I think about it, you packaged yourself for him and then you
 
offered yourself to him. And he took you and made a part of you his own, a part
 
not just in your body but your soul. Don't you understand that a part of you now
 
belongs to him. And, Meena, a part of you will always belong to him..."
 
That real incensed Meena and she went on the offensive.
 
She interrupted me, "Nadir, it wasn't like that, we had no sex, and this is not true,
 
I didn’t offer or gave myself to him. Yes, my emotions, my hormones
 
just took control of me some moments and I made a terrible decision sometimes,
 
but I had no sex with him, I made a mistake, ".
 
"Meena, one moment. First tell me, when you say ‘I had no sex with him, what do
 
you mean? What means sexual relationship for you? " I asked her.
 
“I mean, we had no… no… “, She didn`t find the right words.
 
" Penetration? he did not penetrate in your cunt? Do you mean this? " I Asked
 
angrily.
 
"Yes…Yes… No penetration occurred, not even close to…" She said more
 
calmly, but without looking at me.
 
At this moment slowly I had the feeling that Meena was regaining control over her
 
thoughts and speech.
 
" Okay Meena, about this we speak later, but secondly you repeat all the time,
 
this shit with mistake, I’ll tell you what a mistake is, when you as a married wife,
 
one night, drink too much alcohol and get drunk and accidentally and
 
unplanned, let a guy fuck you and that just once and one time, then you can talk
 
about mistake. Please let this shit word, mistake, leave it outside. ".
 
" Okay, but I am also a flawed human being. I… please, please, understand that
 
sometime things get out of control.", Meena argued.
"What got out of control three or four times in five days?" I calmly asked her.
 
"Me, " She wailed.
 
"You got out of control meaning what?" I asked.
 
Meena was squirming in her chair and desperately trying to find a way to escape
 
her situation.
 
"I lost control of me and situation! I didn't mean to, but it just happened!" Meena
 
sobbed.
 
I mean, you agreed to go out with him dancing, to his place, in the
 
theatre and God knows where else, you decided touching, kissing, and God
 
knows what else… All these nights. Then you spent the almost entire your free
 
time with him, everyday primping for him, you dressed as sexy as you possibly
 
could and with him, And then..."
 
"No! No! No! Not true, not true!" Meena screamed.
 
"Meena, you left this house with the full intention of to be with and perhaps
 
having sex with Jalal. If my meeting had lasted a day or two longer, you would
 
have slept with him too. " I screamed.
 
"No! No! No! That is not true. It's not..." She wailed.
 
I interrupted her, "Meena it is true, and you have fucked up our marriage and
 
relationship royally."
 
That real incensed Meena and she went on the offensive.
 
"No, I, I haven't fucked up our marriage royally, as you put it. Yes, I made a
 
terrible mistake. I got caught up in the excitement of being with Jalal and I lost
 
myself some moments and I made really bad decisions. And nothing happened
 
but some touching and kissing. It will never happen again. But we can get
 
beyond this if you will just slow down and stop accusing me..."
 
I interrupted her, "For some moments? You lost yourself for some moments? How
 
about for some days!"
 
"That is not true!" Meena wailed.
 
"It is true Meena, you left here with him and for him, and you didn't come home
 
until your sleeping time! These are not some moments!"
 
After getting my thoughts together I said to her, "Meena, I don't believe you. I
 
do not believe things got out of control and I don't believe that it just happened. But
 
what I do believe is that you planned it..."
 
"No! No! No! I did not plan this, it just happened. Everything just got out of control.
 
You have got to believe me!" Meena cried.
 
"Meena, I don't believe you. I believe when you left here with Jalal you knew
 
where you were going and what can happen. It was the whole purpose of going
 
out with him. Dancing, having dinner, watching garden or movie theatre, were just
 
with him was just a ruse to mislead me and your conscience and guilt!"
 
Meena was shaking her head side-to-side indicating no, that what I was saying
 
was not true.
 
My words left Meena's head spinning and all she could up with to say was, "But
 
I am here with you. I am not with him. I am here with you! I didn’t leave you or our
 
life and love!"
 
"Yes, you are here with me just because I am back!  After you let another man
 
enjoy you and do whatever else he wanted to do with you, and this not just for a
 
moment or day, but for the days I was not here!" I spoke.
 
"It is not true, and I let him not to do whatever he wanted to do with me, I had my
 
red line and I stayed on my red line". She argued.
 
“You were unfaithful to our love and relationship. I don’t know about your red line,
 
Meena. You can change the position of it, move back and forth. I know just that
 
your emotional affair with him bothers me and makes me very sad and
 
sometimes angry, more than your physical on…” I spoke.
 
“Pardon?” She interrupted me.
 
“Talking to him outside of the relationship about personal things, some flirting,
 
some texting and telling him about your personal other relationships, telling him
 
about your sex life, maybe even sexting, exchanging pics etc.
 
That means you were and are still, emotionally connected to him, and you hide it
 
to me, your partner, your husband, and somebody that you claim to love him.
 
Emotional affair can be just as bad as a physical affair, because it’s easy to get
 
emotionally involved then it can quickly and easily turn into a physical affair…
 
Now I need to know everything about your time with him, and about what and
 
how you two come close, I mean physically,”
 
"I... I honestly can't phrase my point in a couple of sentences. All I know is....
 
talking about this in so much detail is a bad idea."

To be continued...
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Pond Master 19 (2)
 
Nadir Continues:
 
"Okay....now let me explain to you why I need to know these things in detail."
 
"Alright." She accepted.
 
"When two people decide for another and for sharing their lives, it is not sharing
 
only their property, their home, their bedroom, their genital organs. But also, a
 
high level of intimacy, I call it better oneness. You achieve it when you go with
 
another one together, through this process, Meena. 
 
This achieves you with only one person...
 
Only one person at a time. That level of intimacy goes beyond just sticking a
 
penis in a cunt or any other sexual act, with somebody. Do you get what I am
 
saying?"
 
"I....I am not sure."
 
"Well, the practical act of sex, the penetration, comes from evolution. that has a
 
biological programming, biological name is imperative. Everything else that goes
 
with it. But intimacy as I said before, is more than just a sex act, it is this
 
closeness to somebody else, that's... an expression of love. If you have a sexual
 
affair, it is the first level of this process, it is not so complicated and actually very
 
primitive, this is what we did it sometimes previously… but when it goes in a
 
higher level, with or without sexual act, even a kiss, then you enter in the level of
 
this intimacy, this emotional affair, this is my problem, and I must solve this
 
problem, otherwise, our life together will become problematic, even senseless, at
 
least for me. Did you get my point now?"
 
"What is your point exactly, Nadir?" She asked.
 
"I need to know if you have... Or had in these past days a relationship with him
 
that goes beyond just sexual or physical closeness."
 
Meena finally realized she could not argue and explain her way out of her situation.
 
So, she exasperatedly asked, " What do I need to do? Tell me, what do I need
 
to do to make up for my mistake?"
 
"I don’t know Meena; you are no longer mine. You gave yourself to another man."
 
I spoke.
 
"No! No! No! That is not true, I am yours. I am yours and yours alone. Last days I
 
made bad decisions.
 
They were stupid decisions and that will never happen again."
 
"But Meena, you've done it. You gave yourself to him. He took your soul and
 
somehow your body and now a part of you belongs to him.
 
Then maybe you go better back to him, to your lover," I said angrily and
 
somewhat loudly.
 
"But I tell you, I was and am yours and no one else's." Meena begged.
 
"Meena, I saw it for myself, you made yourself for him ready and available, you
 
claim you did not have sex with him, but this is for me not so important. Because
 
you had many times sex with your uncle, but you were under his control and for
 
me, actually and mainly, you were forced blackmailed. Perhaps, not perhaps but
 
sure, you had more often incredibly intense orgasms fucking him, but it was
 
principally unvoluntary from your side, your normal hormonal and body reaction. 
 
Apart from that, we involved other men in our erotic games, and you slept with
 
them at my request and my will and presence and enjoyed it too. But that was all
 
physical.
 
But now it is completely different, you waited for me to leave, you hid from me,
 
when, where and how often you met him, what does that mean? any reasonable
 
person will see that you wanted to give yourself to him, you wanted to unite with
 
him physically and mentally. "
 
Meena interrupted, "But it was a mistake. I made a mistake. And I didn't
 
know what I was doing. My emotions, my hormones just took control of me,
 
and I made a terrible decision!"
 
"I don't want to hear your excuses." I said indignantly.
 
"Today in bathroom, I decided to tell you the truth. I know this was no affair and
 
nothing important is occurred. But I.. I…"  And this brought out
 
Meena's sobs and after a brief moment she continued, "It just got out of control. I
 
mean more than what my personal limit was or is … It just got out of control and
 
I'm so sorry, In these recent days, a little voice reminded me that I’m not really
 
deserving your trust, because of what I do and the lie I am still telling.  When I
 
would put myself in your shoes, I always decided that I would want to know the
 
truth. I would want the person I love to be honest with me. but Nadir, I am not the
 
only one who guilty is…."
 
" What do you mean you are not the only one who guilty is? " I asked.
 
This time Meena spoke slowly and argued, "Look Nadir, before I speak about
 
this. first, we have to make some other things clear, you talk about and you
 
accuse me about my betrayal, that I cheated on you, betrayed our love and life,
 
had sex with another man and so on, and this all intentionally… I will not discuss
 
this anymore, but I want to tell you the truth, I’ll tell you briefly what
 
happened, where and how, and then you can ask questions, no matter how
 
detailed you want the answers to be, I will admit everything as it was. Here and for
 
the last time, I swear that I will answer everything you want to know exactly and
 
without lies, I speak about truth, and you are the one who accepts it, or not… You
 
are the one who believes what I say or not and then you decide what to do, what
 
happens to our life together...
 
After I talk about our s meetings I reply to your other questions and the am going
 
to speak about the question of guilt and blame…
 
I met him five times, on the Sunday after you left, he was here for a short time
 
and surprised me in my bathing suit because I had bathed beforehand, but
 
nothing happened. He almost persuaded me to go dancing with him the next day,
 
Monday, and then when he brought me back, we got closer, he kissed me in the
 
car, but nothing more.
 
The next day, Tuesday, he picked me up and we drove to his place. After dinner
 
and after Tahir, his friend, left, he unexpectedly grabbed me from behind in
 
the library and started to touch and rub my breasts and genitals until I came.
 
Then we left his house, and he took me home. Nothing more and nothing less.
 
On Wednesday he took me to dinner and then to the cinema, where we kissed
 
long and passionately, and he touched and rubbed my lower abdomen again, and
 
I touched and rubbed him for the first time and then he came.
 
Yesterday we went to a pizzeria for lunch and then to his house for a coffee. He
 
wanted to talk to me about his plans for the future. We kissed and nothing more.
 
That was all Nadir.
 
 I was never naked with him, and we never had real sex.
 
Now I sit here, and you ask me what you want in details.
 
One point more, I believe, and I am convinced that if you don't accept and believe
 
my words, then our love, our relationship, our marriage, and our life together
 
have no chance of survival... Then our life together is useless and just a torture
 
for both of us, no matter how much we love each other ... Then it is better that each
 
of us goes our own way.
 
But please no hateful sentences, I am going to confess nothing but just the
 
truth…" Then she stopped waiting for me to say something.
 
I thought to myself, well, the situation is slowly becoming critical and our
 
life together is now dependent on this conversation…
 
" Did you kiss him sexually? I mean lips… tongue… mouth? French kissing?" I
 
asked her immediately.
 
Meena:
"Yes, but more than that,"
 
Me:
"You...really did you have no sex with him, never in these days, not even touching
 
of his dick on your body or pussy?"
 
Meena:
"No. I am so sorry that I did things that were not allowed, I don't mean morally but
 
in my own way of thinking and believe and in relation to our relationship, I mean
 
mine and yours..."
 
Me:
"How many times?"
 
Meena:
“Excuse me?”
 
Me:
"How many times did you do those ‘not intercourse’ things?"
 
Meena:
"Does it matter?"
 
Me:
"Yes."
 
Meena:
"Why?"
 
Me:
"Because I want to know if this was a one off mistake or a prolonged affair…"
 
Meena:
"It was not an affair, Nadir ... but two times, I mean if you include the erotic kiss
 
then Three or four times...."
 
Me:
"Four times or four nights?"
 
Meena:
"No nights."
 
Me:
" You came back all nights home, alone?"
 
Meena:
"Yes."
 
Me:
"Is he...............bigger than me?"
 
Meena:
"Why are you asking me that?"
 
Me:
"Just answer me."
 
Meena:
"I thought you saw the picture,"
 
Me:
"But you saw it in real life, right?"
 
Meena:
"Yes, but only in darkness,",
 
Me:
"And you had it in your hand,"
 
Me:
Meena:
 "Yes, sort of bigger. A bit thicker but he is much longer,"
 
Me:
"Bigger than Mansour?"
 
Meena:
"No.... I don’t know..."
 
Me:
"You know for sure Meena, you know that from your uncle,"
 
Meena:
“Let me see… Yes, he was longer but not thicker, I think …”
 
Me:
"Has he entered you?"
 
Meena:
“No way, he wasn’t even close…,”
 
Me:
"Were you or he naked?"
 
Meena:
"No, never…"
 
Me:
“What did he more than kissing?
 
Meena:
 "He touched me and rubbed me,"
 
Me:
“You mean your tits, legs, or pussy? “
 
Meena:
"Yes, all three, but just over my panty,"
 
Me:
“And that made you wet? “
 
Meena:
"Yes, "
 
Me:
"Did you cum? "
 
Meena:
"Yes, "
 
Me:
" How many times and where, "
 
Meena:
"Two times, first time in his house and the day before yesterday in the movie
 
theatre,"
 
Me:
"Did he cum?"
 
Meena:
"Yes,"
 
Me:
"Every time? How many times?"
 
 
Meena:
"No, not every time, he came only one time,"
 
 
Me:
"Did you suck his dick?"
 
Meena:
"No,"
 
Me:
"Why not?"
 
Mena:
"I didn’t want and he did not too, I mean he didn’t asked for it ,"
 
Me:
"How did he cum then?"
 
Meena:
"I rubbed him, and he came in my hands. Nadir, I must say something here, I
 
know that deep in your heart you believe me because you know me, it may
 
sound weird to draw the line there after such a mistake … "
 
Me:
"And did he go down on you?"
 
Meena:
"No, perhaps he would have done, but I did not allow the matter to come to this,"
 
Me:
"Were you drunk on any of those occasions?"
 
Meena:
"Yes, I think a little bit, at least the first days, otherwise under no circumstances
 
would something like that has happened."
 
Me:
"Did you....do you love him?"
 
 
Meena:
"No, of course not! I love you, Nadir!"
 
Me:
"At those moments, the moments of erotic closeness, did you... think you loved him?"
 
Meena:
"......"
 
Me:
"Well?"
 
Meena:
"Maybe."
 
Me:
"What is maybe? Yes, or no?"
 
Meena:
"It's not that simple, it depends on what love is meant."
 
Me:
"Yes, it is, so simple, you know love since your childhood."
 
Meena:
"No, it isn't. Yes, I like him enough to consider being with him sexually, but just in
 
one case would I do that and go so far, just when you want it and let it occur.
 
But, all the time, with or without him, I knew that you were and are the only one I
 
could love and spend my life with.
 
I don’t know, perhaps I wanted his attention, and I don’t know why, but I know that
 
I do not love him, this is not love, I know love since I was a teenager and met
 
you…
 
And all the time since this began, I wanted to speak with you, to tell you, I didn’t
 
want to keep it hidden, Nadir. I know that the silence is not the answer.
 
Silence is dangerous. Silence and shame are a killer combination.
 
I was not unfaithful to you all my life, perhaps these days I drank too much.
 
I just didn’t know how to tell you, I cannot pretend I didn’t what I did, I cannot
 
pretend I wouldn’t, I cannot pretend I hadn’t…
 
I felt very guilty every second that I had erotic feelings next to him,"
 
And after a short pause while she was thinking, she went on, "Excuse me Nadir, I
 
think you are right, I am so sorry, that was a mistake" Meena began to cry again,
 
with her hands on her face, covering her eyes.

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I am your big fan. I read your story. Your narration is very simple and soft. Last update is tremendous and your updates comes long as I read happily. Please dont stop your story. My english speak is not well but still I try to write comments. I understand english but not speak well. One suggestion is meena like jalal but not love him. I want One scene come from meena that she and jalal while doing sex her phone bymistakly on not off and nadir hear all their conversation ie kissing and sexual talk. That's from my side. Now I am give your every updates reply.
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(25-11-2024, 11:20 PM)Real man Wrote: I am your big fan. I read your story. Your narration is very simple and soft. Last update is tremendous and your updates comes long as I read happily. Please dont stop your story. My english speak is not well but still I try to write comments. I understand english but not speak well. One suggestion is meena like jalal but not love him. I want One scene come from meena that she and jalal while doing sex her phone bymistakly on not off and nadir hear all their conversation ie kissing and sexual talk. That's from my side. Now I am give your every updates reply.

Thank you friend...

My english is not very good, either... But i try ...

I'll be happy to read more from you...

Enjoy,

Salir
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(25-11-2024, 08:49 PM)RCF Wrote: I am guessing Nadir won't confront her right away but will change his decision to go to ranch with her. He will this time go with her but might give them alone time to see what's going on between them and unfortunately for Nadir he might witness his first intimate encounter between them but their conversations could reveal its not their first.

I read your comment a little late... So perhaps what you suggested would be a more sensible way for Nadir... 

But hurt pride and pure anger sometimes go their own way, without regard for reason...

Enjoy,

Salir
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(26-11-2024, 12:34 AM)Salir Wrote: I read your comment a little late... So perhaps what you suggested would be a more sensible way for Nadir... 

But hurt pride and pure anger sometimes go their own way, without regard for reason...

Enjoy,

Salir

Yes because you have only few references below of what's going on , I would rather confirm than start blaming about sex with out proof.

1. Images exchanged with JN
2. Semen stains on her dress
3. Lingerie dress

All of them point that a lot happened  so your outburst is valid but repeatedly saying she had sex went little overboard. Hopefully you guys resolved it soon and not an extended dark phase. We as readers were hoping JN might have got a chance lol lets see.
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You managed to hit us (me anyway) on our emotional level with the way you wrote and the description 
of the events and once again captivated and enthralled us with your story.

At the end, after reading this part, my emotions and thoughts were divided in two.
It happened to me for the first time that I was (and am) so immersed in this story that I wanted to 
understand and empathise with the two protagonists at the same time.
On the one hand, I felt relieved, like Meena after her confession, on the other hand, 
something of sadness and anger, like Nadir felt at that moment.

Relieved and saddened
joy and anger
confidence and uncertainty ... 
Nadir and Meena must have found themselves in this rollercoaster of emotions at the end of this conversation.


In this sense
All the best

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(26-11-2024, 03:59 AM)RCF Wrote: Yes because you have only few references below of what's going on , I would rather confirm than start blaming about sex with out proof.

1. Images exchanged with JN
2. Semen stains on her dress
3. Lingerie dress

All of them point that a lot happened  so your outburst is valid but repeatedly saying she had sex went little overboard. Hopefully you guys resolved it soon and not an extended dark phase. We as readers were hoping JN might have got a chance lol lets see.


We can describe Nadir as a cuckold, wife watcher, morally perverted or even mentally disturbed, 
which affects many of those who consciously or unconsciously move around in our society!

He knows that himself, at least since the Mansour story...

But for him, mutual loyalty is always the most important quality in a relationship.
But what exactly is loyalty - and above all: where does infidelity begin?

If it regards each of us as affected, and not as observer of another one we look at from a distance, 
for the majority of us, regardless of whether it is man or woman, that it is infidelity as soon as it becomes 
physical - kissing and intimate physical contact are taboo. Even for many, infidelity begins with flirting.
 
For Nadir, everything is permitted as long as it happens under his control and observation or at least his knowledge.
Anything beyond that, i.e. without his permission or information, he considers as disloyalty.

Then when it reaches this phase, what one sees as infidelity has, of course, consequences for every living being, 
even the animals react to it.

Anger, pain, guilt, destroyed trust - anyone who has been cheated on by their partner suffers like an animal.

The unimaginable suffering that an affair causes can only be felt if you have experienced infidelity in your own
relationship.
 
The main problem and question for Nadir in this phase of the story: Can he still believe?
 
Could he bear the damage caused to their relationship by Meena's suspected affair? 
 
Because in this phase, the trust that is the basis of their relationship is destroyed: His Meena, 
who he thought he knew as well as himself, lied and even led a secret double life for days.
 
How could he still believe his wife - a question that torments him...
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Nadir Continues:
 
Me:
"Ok. We go on. How come you could orgasm just by a short touching and rubbing
 
so quickly … Normally it takes more minutes even while real sex?"
 
Meena
"Yes, but with him there was the added element of it being forbidden and wrong. I
 
think that made me cum sooner. Sorry... I wasn't proud of what I was doing, and I
 
am not proud of it … I am so sorry..."
Me:
" Admit Meena, this was not a mistake or mistakes, you were really unfaithful. "
 
Meena:
" I am sorry. If you want to divorce me, I completely understand. But I love you
 
and want to spend the rest of my life with you… "
 
Me:
"That's all platitudes until I can ascertain the level of your intimacy with him."
 
Meena:
"Okay.... but let me finish. Also, I can understand if you just want to divorce
 
me and never see me again. I will agree to the divorce on the terms of your
 
choosing, although that divorce will devastate me.
 
But....if you end up divorcing me because of this, I would rather that you did it
 
quickly. And knowing all these details about what happened between me and
 
him... will just make your resentment fester."
 
Me:
"So I should pretend that it never happened?"
 
Meena:
"No, Nadir! You aren't getting me point."
 
Me:
"What is your point?"
 
Meena:
"No! I am not saying that! It happened. I wish I could undo it, but I can't. It
happened."
 
Me:
"Then what is your point?"
 
Meena:
"My point is… I am not the only one who guilty is… but it is useless to discuss
 
it… Never mind, it makes no sense, "
 
Me:
"No, tell me your point."
 
Meena:
"Look Nadir, think about your game or games, and your demand to watch me…
 
In this relation, you see people as just instruments, dolls to play with, and you
 
demand or rather command them to play as you want and you direct... They
 
should play as you wish, and no one can take his or her own will and
 
feelings, seriously.
 
You want to control everything. Is that fair?
 
Don't you see the selfish potential behind it?
 
I've almost always accepted that, I didn't want to lose you, what else could I do?
 
But the others, some don't want that... Some go their own way and if you want to
 
have them in your game you have to accept that, or to leave it…
 
You have to take the risk that at some point something will go wrong with your
 
plans...
 
With me too you have to always keep the risk in mind I am also a human being
 
with weaknesses and strengths and often make mistakes.
 
Maybe even fatal mistakes that require sacrifices or are not correctable and can
 
hurt you.
 
I have warned you so many times, Nadir… I know you, perhaps better than you
 
know yourself, I know that in some cases you take risks whose consequences
 
may be unbearable for you...
 
but you go without considering it, so self-confident and sure of success and yes,
 
at some point catastrophe occurs...
 
I love you so much, Nadir... I don't want to lose you, because that would mean
 
losing myself too...
 
But I accept your decision and if you want, we can go our separate ways...
 
you should just know and remember, when I did something, I basically focused
 
on your game scenario, maybe I missed or lost your game plan somewhere
 
along the way, but you were always there and that was always based on your
 
scenario… Sometimes more, sometimes less…
 
You know better, slips and slides are unavoidable in such a thing, with you high
 
intelligence, your life experience behind you, you had to know that well…
 
You should not only look for the fault and guilt by others, and you should also not
 
start the story from the middle, but read the first pages too, then you can see and
 
recognize the guilty part or parts and his, her or their motives better and more
 
clearly...
 
We both need healing, but to be healed, you have to go deep into your wounds…
 
I was most of all being unfaithful to myself, more than you…
 
We want loving stability from each other, we need someone to make us feel
 
loved, cared for and adored and sometimes we want the excitement from the
 
eyeballs of others, too. This is what makes you and me to think and play our
 
games, in reality your games. 
 
I, as a normal woman, want to be loved consistently and longingly and as a
 
woman I also want people to think I am fun, cool, sexy, attractive, pretty, and
 
more. We all deserve to have fun, but the limits are important. This is not
 
cheating on you, Nadir. This is normal, but the red lines are important. 
 
Perhaps I wanted someone, he to choose me - so much so, but I didn’t lose
 
myself time and time again giving myself to him, doesn't matter if he deserves me
 
or not. For me, I stayed in the territory of your right over me. Perhaps moments of
 
one or two centimetres over the line, but still in your territory…  any part of me
 
was there with you, physical and emotional.
 
I have now really the feeling that I broke your heart into smithereens, and you
 
didn't deserve it, this is a nightmare for me.
 
You think you have found out, that the person you are in love with, betrayed
 
You.
 
But is this so? Did I this to you really? Is this not your false feeling? Is this not
 
vanity and unnecessary and excessive jealousy?
 
I see pained anguish on your face as if you broke down, telling me how much I
 
had hurt you. But did I this so?
 
If you mean I should go to my lover, you mean in the highest way my sexual
 
partner, That's not true either. We don't have a sexual relationship, for me that
 
was a somewhat exaggerated seductive activity on his part, or at least on my
 
part. Maybe and certainly, he wanted more and still wants more…
 
Should I tell you something? in a few months he is migrating to the USA and he
 
definitely wants to take me with him as a life partner or maybe even his wife if I
 
say yes... He loves me and I know that he can be a very pleasant life partner and
 
make every normal woman lucky and providential, he wants and can offer me
 
 everything, not just materially and emotionally, should I go with him? Do you
 
really want this, when you say go to your lover?
 
That hurts me... that hurts me so much Nadir, that pushes me directly into the
 
pain.
 
But as I said, in this moment none of this is important, in this moment I leave the
 
decision to you and how you decide, I will do it, have I ever done anything else in
 
my life?
 
You must not think about me and my feelings, think and decide as you want and
 
your feelings are, just remember, sometimes some decisions cannot be taken
 
back…
 
If at the end of your thinkings and this talking, you come to a conclusion that I
 
am really a cheating wife for you, then it’s useless, our being together has no
 
meaning and sense. " Meena stopped talking and looked into my eyes with moist
 
eyes, waiting.
 
The last sentences were very touching for me, or rather painful.
 
I felt a tightness and pressure in my chest.  
 
I had to get up and leave.
 
I couldn't sit there and speak, anymore. I needed time and rest. My thoughts
 
needed to calm down.
 
I stood up and said, "I have to get upstairs for a minute, I'll be right back, I need a
 
short break, ", and left the room.
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Meena’Narration:
 
Meena remained sitting at the table and staring down into her cup of coffee.
 
Her life, her perfect life, had rapidly fallen apart and it was all her own
 
doing.
 
And being with Jalal, after seeing his photo, she indulged in tantalizing
 
fantasies of him and her together.
 
Particularly of them having sex. And the things she knew from her
 
experiences and memories, especially with her uncle,  about
 
men like Jalal, of how their unusual genitals, intensified intercourse and
 
erotism for the woman, just made her fantasies even more tantalizing.
 
Yes, she admitted to herself at this moment that she got to the point where
 
almost every one of last nights, before she fell asleep she laid in bed and
 
imagined her and Jalal having sex.
 
But in her fantasies Nadir was always there, at least as an observer if not as
 
her sexually active second partner.
 
She never thought or planned to meet Jalal alone and have sex, not even in
 
her fantasies.
 
In  Meena's state-of-mind she was not cheating. She was not betraying
 
Nadir.
 
Rather, she was on the hunt and looking for a sex partner for Nadir's erotic
 
games and she would have received what her performances were worth
 
and would have earned her fair and legitimate price.
 
The old Jalal Noori with his excellent properties was the trophy specimen
 
of the male species which she was hunting for their games.
 
These days and what she had done, were limited adventures to seduce
 
Jalal for later, for her and Nadir’s erotic games. 
 
Strangely enough, she almost thought that Nadir was right.
 
She let her hormones and erotic desires come into play in
 
those few moments.
 
That was her big mistake.
 
And she knew it was doable to seduce him. But she went too far.
 
Her intuition sensed Jalal was interested in her and she believed he would

take her as far as possible if he was given an opportunity.
 
All she had to do was give him the opportunity, and she gave him that!
 
Meena was confident Jalal would go along with this opportunity because
 
several times he gave the signal.
 
And she signalled to Jalal that this was his opportunity that Nadir is
 
abroad.
 
She looked and dressed as stunning and alluring and sexy as possible.
 
Nadir was right, this all was for Jalal.
 
 From this point of view and today and in this moment, it seemed if her
 
behaviour would send a clear signal to him that she was available for the
 
taking.
 
It seemed so that, if he picked up and accepted her signals, then they
 
would go through this sexual trip and adventure.
 
Of course Jalal picked up her signal the first day while dancing, or before,
 
as they left for dance floor, even earlier, when she sat down in his car and
 
he saw what she was offering him, well, of course, he wanted it.
 
He wanted to take full advantage of the opportunity.
 
She didn't plan it that way, it's all got out of hand because the atmosphere  
 
was so prepared and pleasing.
 
Perhaps Nadir exaggerated in his suspicions and accusations of her
 
betrayal and deception.
 
But basically, he was right, she was thinking, it was not just his jealousy of
 
Jalal and a lusciously sensual.
 
She had lied to him and not told the truth.
 
He was very angry now.
 
What would he decide now? she thought.
 
She couldn't imagine life without him.
 
Ever since she left her childhood, since she stopped playing with dolls, she
 
has known him and he has been a part of her life, or rather a part of herself.
 
It was with him that she first really got to know life and the world and for
 
her, as a little girl and then later as a shy teenager, he was always a good-
 
looking, polite and reliable boy next door that she always wanted to get to
 
know better and always dreamed of him as a friend and life partner.
 
Even all of her friends and family noticed that.  
 
They met for the first time when she was just nine and he was fourteen.
 
They were in love with each other after four or five years.
 
For both of them, life had only in the presence of the other one, a meaning.
 
But they had sex and physical contact later, when she was seventeen and
 
he was twenty-two years old. He was her first and she was his first.
 
She gave him her virginity and he brought her to her first orgasm.
 
So now according to Nadir there would be no forgiveness, there would be
 
no getting beyond it.
 
Unless he gains certainty, that he has no doubt that Meena had no other
 
reason to be with Jalal but to push forward his, Nadir’s started erotic game
 
plans about Jalal!
 
That he realizes what the real reason for the matter was and how it all
 
started, that he understands that it is not only her responsibility and fault.
 
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